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hey everybody this is beck and i'm a

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maker of music

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and like the great sun raw said space is

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the place

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and i'm farah i work at nasa and i use

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ai to explore mars and i brought a few

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friends along who knows something about

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artificial intelligence

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hi i'm joan

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hi i'm isabel

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we are both artists working with nasa

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using artificial intelligence

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this is

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ask nasa

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yeah so back you just released a set of

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new music videos uh using a lot of nasa

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imagery and i grew up living space and

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obviously those images are used by

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scientists what inspires you about space

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and how you came up with this idea well

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the title of the record came from a

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video game a really primitive video game

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from the 80s called asteroids

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when the asteroids were going to kill

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you and they would

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they were just about to collide with

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your spaceship that you would hit this

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button and it would make you disappear

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and reappear somewhere else in in the

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galaxy

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and i always wondered what that button

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was called and i looked it up one day

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and it was called hyperspace

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so i i sort of

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got my mind thinking into music and song

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ideas because i think in some way i

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think of music as sort of a hyper space

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button

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you know it's something that we

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you know we press play on a piece of

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music and it takes us somewhere out of

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our lives out of our circumstances but i

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did like

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the feeling of the music

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that there was this sort of thread of

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outer space kind of um

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wide

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vista of space and time you know

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existing in the songs

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artificial intelligence is the ability

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for machines or computers to make

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autonomous and intelligent decisions

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that can look like recognizing patterns

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or analyzing images or learning certain

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behaviors and then mimicking them

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i mean right away when we heard

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hyperspace we thought we have to use ai

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for this vec was already creating a

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sonic environment that went to like the

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edges of our our understanding and the

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way that we see and that's something

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that we're most excited about working

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with ai with but it

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expands our our modes of thinking and

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then just the title hyperspace literally

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means to go beyond three dimensions the

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one that we use for this particular

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project it literally

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works in a 512 dimensional space

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in order the the process begins with the

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ai training on the images so if we

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showed it just a few hundred it wouldn't

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know that much but what was so great

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about working with nasa's decade deep

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you know archive of knowledge is that it

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could really learn so for weeks and

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weeks the ai trained on as many images

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as we could show it i think in the end

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it looked at over 25 million images

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sometimes that was multiple times

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looking at the same images to try and

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understand these images

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yeah basically imagery of anything in

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our solar system is how we get started

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in the process of exploration right and

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so when we first went to mars or when we

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sent cassini to saturn

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we had some thoughts about what we might

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find based on that imagery and that's

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what allows us to really focus down on

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the type of science we're going to do i

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worked a lot on the database creation

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and i feel almost like i could draw a

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picture of

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the galaxy now just from going like

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anyone can do just by working with the

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nasa

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websites and going through the archives

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like the ai was then able to take that

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recognize uh colors that were happening

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a lot recognize shapes that were

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happening a lot i remember when it first

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showed us what it thought saturn looked

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like

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i was blown away

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yeah and even then seeing these images

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and getting all the info it's it's it is

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overwhelming isn't it i mean we're

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talking about other worlds we're talking

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about other realities we probably won't

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ever get to

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experience in our lifetimes this is the

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closest we'll come

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to uh touching the unknown this project

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is so

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interesting because it really came out

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of the theme of the record

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i would have loved the idea of taking

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sounds from these missions in space and

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putting them into the music itself the

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coolest thing that we have coming up um

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you know which we can point you to when

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it comes out is that perseverance

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actually has two microphones on board

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it's the first time we'll have real

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audio from mars so we'll have audio as

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well landing on the planet so that

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during entry descent and landing and

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then we'll have audio when we're driving

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or um the rover has a laser and so

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you'll be able to actually hear that

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laser zap on another planet which is

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kind of something that's kind of hard to

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even wrap your mind around

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and that hasn't been recorded before no

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not with the microphone not this way

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we've never had a microphone on the

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rover okay well

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send those audio files my way when you

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get them absolutely

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so on perseverance we actually have an

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extra computer and so that extra

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computer allows us to make the rover

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smarter and we actually self-drive on

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mars so the rover has to take imagery of

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the area in front of it literally build

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its own map it can then identify

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different types of obstacles and slopes

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and based on that and its knowledge of

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where it's able to drive it decides on

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the mars database was in one of the

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easiest ones because it's where we have

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the most high resolution imagery it's

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been so well captured from so many

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different points of view we've seen the

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soil on a terrestrial level and then we

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also have imaging of mars firms from

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and looking through this this data set

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once we train the ai on that it was able

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to kind of produce such

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vivid strange

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imagery because mars itself i think is

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so much more complex and so much more

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deep and varied than we imagined it is

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okay so one more cool feature about the

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perseverance rover is that it can also

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act as a scientist

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the rover can look at the environment

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around it look at all the rocks and say

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hey this rock over there looks really

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cool

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let me image it use my laser to zap it

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and figure out what's under that surface

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send all of that data back to the

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scientists so it allows us to

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essentially have

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scientists on mars making decisions

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without having humans in the loop here

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on the ground

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i think to me the idea of space is a bit

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overwhelming and

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awe inspiring just the idea of listening

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to a piece of music and we go somewhere

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else our lives change you know it's a

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mirror to this other idea of space and

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space exploration and letting the

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imagery of these other worlds these

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unknown places with this music i think

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you know i feel uh really fortunate to

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to have you all open your doors to to me

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and my music and

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for us to go somewhere with it that was

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here let me get my video up

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we'll get it

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this is ask nasa

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i mean that would be the show turned

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away there's all kinds of guitars um

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this guitar is actually

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from 1901

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and it has these ivory pegs all right so

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these are some vintage keyboards and

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this is the 808 which is responsible for

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the sound of all trap music is the moog

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and uh this is responsible for most of

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the music of the 80s there's a couple of

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pedals that i use